{"id":36,"date":"2006-07-24T03:39:13","date_gmt":"2006-07-24T01:39:13","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.zoopersound.de\/?p=36"},"modified":"2006-07-27T18:44:06","modified_gmt":"2006-07-27T16:44:06","slug":"writing-music-is-like-meditating-an-interview-with-mala-dmz","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.zoopersound.de\/?p=36","title":{"rendered":"„Writing Music Is Like Meditating“ – An Interview with Mala (DMZ)"},"content":{"rendered":"

Two weeks before I did this interview on the phone, I had been visiting the now almost legendary DMZ<\/a> rave at Mass in Brixton, South London (check my photos here<\/a>). DMZ has become the central night for the dubstep scene, if not even a kind of its spiritual centre. As it’s taking place in the back part of a church in which front part actual services are still held, you might think DMZ’s slogan „Come and meditate on bass weight“ is just a cheap promotional joke. But the dedicated vibe of the crowd, the way it enthusiasticly celebrates the music, swaying in unison with the waves of bass, really resembles a bit of a spiritual congregation.<\/p>\n

One of the promoters of the night is Mala, who is also one half of the production outfit Digital Mystikz and part of the DMZ label team. DMZ are not only responsible for the most important rave of the scene, but have also been very influential on the sound aesthetic and the musical evolution of dubstep since their first release about three years ago. So here’s Mala in his own words on his musical influences, sound systems, spirituality and much more….<\/p>\n

\"DMZ
\nMala @ DMZ, May 2006<\/em><\/p>\n

Where in London are you from originally?<\/em><\/p>\n

I\u2019ve grown up in Norwood, SE 25<\/a>, South London.<\/p>\n

How did you get into making music?<\/em><\/p>\n

It was something I naturally progressed into. I have always been listening to music, but it was about 1992 when I heard jungle music on the pirate radio stations that I thought about making music myself for the first time. I was really taken by hardcore jungle and I started doing music in my head every day. It all stems from there, really! Then I started writing music probably about 2000 or 2001 and began taking it seriously about a year later than that.<\/p>\n

So hardcore and jungle are your main musical influences then?<\/em><\/p>\n

Not really, no. I don\u2019t think I could say that they are the main musical influences in what I do now. I think the influences stem from all aspects of life, not just from music. There\u2019s been so much music that\u2019s influenced me over the years, so many different styles, so many different artists, different sounds and instruments, environmental sounds \u2013 everything, man! So, it\u2019s just a mash-up of styles all the way from jungle to dub to jazzy stuff to world music. I can\u2019t say that one particular musical style has influenced me more than another.
\nBut maybe saying that, it was jungle music I listened to, which I scrutinized every little bit of, every beat, for years and years and years. So maybe the foundation of what I do is jungle. Nevertheless, all the tracks I do are just different. I enjoy experimenting with sounds. I always like to start off with new drum sounds and new samples when I\u2019m doing a new beat. It just keeps things fresh for me that way, because at the end of the day it\u2019s about enjoying writing music, its not about anything else!<\/p>\n

In my opinion, it\u2019s this variety of sound that makes your music really interesting, because you\u2019ll never know what the next DMZ track might sound like\u2026<\/em><\/p>\n

I\u2019m lucky that you\u2019re actually talking about DMZ! Coki\u2019s got his side to what he does and Loefah<\/a>\u2019s got his own take on everything as well, so it\u2019s a mash-up of a lot of different sounds.<\/p>\n

Just to set the record straight: You and Coki are Digital Mystikz, but there are more people involved in DMZ (the label<\/a> and parties<\/a>), e.g. Loefah\u2026<\/em><\/p>\n

That\u2019s right. Loefah has always produced as Loefah, and myself and Coki, we have always produced as Digital Mystikz. We have known each other for years and years and years\u2026<\/p>\n

\"DMZ
\nfrom left to right: Mala, Coki, Loefah @ DMZ, May 2006<\/em><\/p>\n

We started the label because we wanted to represent ourselves, we wanted not to be misrepresented. At that time there wasn\u2019t really going on much else. There were a few labels like Big Apple<\/a> and Tempa<\/a>, but nobody really knew how to call the music, everybody was calling it something different. So we thought we should call it the DMZ sound, so people could understand where it was coming from.<\/p>\n

Tell us a bit about how a Digital Mystikz track comes into existence: Are you and Coki always working together, or is it sometimes your tune and sometimes one by Coki? It\u2019s not always mentioned on the record labels\u2026<\/em><\/p>\n

It varies: Some tracks we do together, some tracks we don\u2019t. A lot of the time we work on stuff individually. None of that is the result of premeditated decisions, it\u2019s just a matter of time and circumstances. And things are different in our lives now than they were when we started!
\nIt was around 2002 when we both decided that we wanted to take writing music a little bit more seriously. We didn\u2019t take this decision because we were thinking of selling records or anything like that. We wanted to write music just for us, for nobody else. It just happened that we played some stuff to Hatcha<\/a> and he was like: \u201cAh, I could play some of this shit!\u201d The next thing we knew was that Hatcha was playing some of our tunes. Six month after that, it must have been in June 2003, he played \u201cPathways\u201d<\/a> for the first time at Plastic<\/a> People<\/a>.<\/p>\n

\"Digital \"Digital<\/p>\n

The impact was shocking, to be honest! From my point of view, as somebody who made it, I didn\u2019t expect people to respond to the music in that kind of way. But that got things moving: Before that it had been just us making music for ourselves, and all of a sudden there was a platform for what were doing. At the same time, people started to call our music \u201cdubstep\u201d. I never actually said that I write \u201cdubstep\u201d\u2026 <\/p>\n

But do you actually like the term \u201cdubstep\u201d?<\/em><\/p>\n

If it wasn\u2019t \u201cdubstep\u201d, it would be called something else. It seems like there is a need for a name in order to sell the music: Labels and magazines want to have a name for it, the shops want to have something to put on their shelves.
\nFor me it\u2019s a personal thing: People might hear certain things in the sound that remind them of the music they regularly listen to and they relate it to that. Some of the people say: \u201cOh, it sounds similar to this or that, some of it sounds like techno, some of it sounds like house, some of it sounds like drum\u2019n\u2019bass.\u201d <\/p>\n

At raves Digital Mystikz usually play out as a sound system (with you and Loefah on the decks and Pokes on the microphone). The set up and the way you play reminds me of a traditional reggae sound system. Do you see yourself in that tradition?<\/em><\/p>\n

Actually, I\u2019ve always grown up around that. If I go back to listening to jungle music, you had a DJ and a mic man. The DJ would play dubplates and the MC would host. I\u2019m talking about MCs like Moose and Five O<\/a> who used to spit lyrics as well, but they weren\u2019t like Shabba<\/a> or Skibadee<\/a>, they were different. It\u2019s kind of a similar thing to a dub\/reggae soundsystem, but for me that\u2019s normal, that\u2019s not really following any particular tradition. I\u2019ve always seen music being played this way \u2013 apart from bands and stuff, which is obviously a totally different thing \u2013 but from a DJ\u2019s point-of-view that was just how it was done! <\/p>\n

\"DMZ
\nDMZ, May 2006: Sgt. Pokes, Spaceape, Kode 9 (from left)<\/em><\/p>\n

It wasn\u2019t like: \u201cAlright, let\u2019s have a DMZ soundsystem!\u201d I never used to DJ until I was asked to play at a party. I thought, well, they\u2019ve asked Digital Mystikz to play, so I might as well do that and just play all my music. And that\u2019s really how it came about. Loefah already used to DJ years ago and Pokes had always MC-ed. So it was just natural. It\u2019s kind of weird, cause everything we do now is almost like it\u2019s an extension of our bedroom when we was teenagers. We always used to do jam sessions \u2013 me, Coki, Loefah and Pokes. It\u2019s just nice to be able to go out and share positive experiences and push out positive vibes to people.<\/p>\n

What are your feelings about things having grown to such an extent right now?<\/em><\/p>\n

I\u2019m shocked! There\u2019s no way to really describe it. I\u2019m very grateful for everything that\u2019s going on at the moment, but if you want to sum up how I feel in one word: I\u2019m shocked! None of us had planned this, so it\u2019s really enjoyable to hear what people have been saying about the music and it\u2019s nice to go out and about, put out music and just create something positive for people. <\/p>\n

So there are no downsides of the whole thing to you?<\/em><\/p>\n

M: I suppose, if you want me to look at life, there are always downsides like there\u2019s also positive stuff. But in terms of like music there\u2019s no downside to it at all. In terms of business \u2013 that\u2019s boring: I like music, I like writing music, but I don\u2019t like doing accounts. If there is a downside to it it\u2019s the business side of it.<\/p>\n

There are a lot of references to spirituality in the world of DMZ \u2013 just think about the subtitle of the DMZ rave („Come meditate on bass weight“) for example. Are you a spiritual person? Is it something you\u2019re really into?<\/em><\/p>\n

I think it\u2019s part of everything in life. Whether people choose to see certain things or not comes down to the individual. And that\u2019s another reason why I won\u2019t describe my sound – as you have asked me before in your email. For me it\u2019s not about how I perceive my sound, it\u2019s about how you or the person next to you receives it. I don\u2019t really feel comfortable describing it, because how it hits me and you might be in a totally different way. I would like to have it left undescribed.
\nComing back to the spirituality question: To me writing music is like a form of meditating, it\u2019s a way that I\u2019m able to release certain things from inside out – whether you had a good day or a bad day or something is troubling you. That\u2019s why I write music. It\u2019s almost as necessary for me as water, it\u2019s something I have to do. I don\u2019t have to write music and put music out in a shop for people to buy it, that\u2019s not what I need. I just need to write music. People buying it and people enjoying it \u2013 I give thanks for that!
\nI suppose I could go further into the spirituality thing, but I think people should take what they want from the music. If people – whatever they may believe in or not believe in – feel about it in a certain way \u2013 as long as it\u2019s positive, that\u2019s what it\u2019s about for me! That\u2019s why I say meditate, because when it comes to our dance, that\u2019s what I want people to do. I want it to be a positive meditation. I\u2019m not into no madness, man!
\nObviously, in the music itself you have certain dark sounds. They are not dark in the sense of \u201cevil\u201d or \u201cmenacing\u201d, but they are serious. I think that\u2019s where you find the meditation, because \u2013 although it\u2019s obviously designed for a big sound system, it\u2019s one of the types of music you can listen to on different levels. But I think you can take it or leave it.<\/p>\n

The latest release on the DMZ label (Loefah: „Mud\/Ruffage“ (DMZ 009)<\/a>) has just left the pressing plant and should be available in good record shops worldwide.<\/em><\/p>\n

\"Groove \"Dubstep \"Dubstep \"Dubstep
\nQuotes from this interview have been used for a three-page background feature on the dubstep scene which I wrote for Groove<\/a> magazine. The issue should be available until late August on newsstands throughout Germany.<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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